My Happy Home: Martin Roberts Interview

My Happy Home: Martin Roberts Interview

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As part of our new interview series, My Happy Home, we sit down with Martin Roberts to find out about the best decorating advice he has ever received — and why he loves a bargain at B&M.

Martin is a property expert, author and journalist who has been presenting BBC One’s daytime property auction series, Homes Under the Hammer, since its inauguration in 2003. He has also written two books, Teach Yourself Making Money from Property and The Property Auction Guide, and is a guest presenter on The Jeremy Vine Show which airs on BBC Radio.

What makes you happiest at home?

MR: Cuddling up on the sofa with my kids and the dog, and then watching a movie in front of the fire with a glass of wine. I mean it is a bit cliché, but that’ll do for me!

What is the best home bargain you’ve ever snapped up?

MR: I buy a lot of things from charity shops. There’s this place in Wales where I bought literally every single piece of furniture from. This lovely sofa I’m sitting on now – a beautiful, leather sofa – was around £100, which came with my armchair that the dog’s sitting on now. I think it was a great deal and I don’t care that it’s second-hand.

Recently, I went down to the flower shop because I wanted some for a photoshoot. I ended up buying fake flowers and eight vases for £18 from the charity shop, compared to over £30 for some real flowers and one vase at the flower shop. I’ve always loved shopping around for second-hand items or antiques. I love car boot sales, charity shops and reusing things. The only thing is I’m not great at getting rid of them, which drives my wife insane.

Tell us about your favourite memory at home

MR: My favourite memory is bringing our first son home. I was quite late in my life when I had a child, so it was a massive thing to have kids. When we brought Scott home as a tiny little baby from the hospital, we had three golden retrievers at the time. I’ll never forget coming home and seeing the dogs bounding out of the house. When they saw Scott, they knew that something special had happened. It was like that scene from the start of the Lion King where all the animals bow down. These dogs completely understood that something big had happened. It was very sweet. People try and pretend that cats come anywhere close…

What is the best decorating advice you have ever received?

MR: That would probably be whoever told me about door stripping. You just take the door off, give it to someone else, and they’ll take it and dip it in a tank of chemicals, charge you £40, and give it back when it’s beautiful. All the doors in my house were stripped. They look much better, and it’s saved me so much pain.

Another decorating tip is to use masonry paint on external walls, especially if you have rough stone walls. Exterior masonry paint is really thick, so it can cover up a multitude of sins.

bbc's homes under the hammer dion dublin, martel maxwell and martin roberts

BBC One’s Homes Under the Hammer presenters (l-r) Dion Dublin, Martel Maxwell and Martin Roberts

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Where do you shop for the best homewares?

MR: I’m a huge fan of places like B&M, The Range and Trago Mills. I love those kinds of places. They have truly fantastic stuff and great bargains. If you’ve never been to Trago, go to Trago. It’s not exactly ideal if you live in London, but they are awesome.

If you could have a snoop around anyone’s house, whose would it be and why?

MR: I think that I would like to snoop around Buckingham Palace. I would love to see the inside, such as where the Queen and the Royal Family really live. What kind of bits and pieces have they got lying around? What kind of memorabilia? What’s the furniture like? You get glimpses in the pictures, but I’d love to know if there are pizza boxes on the floor. I just think that would be great.

What is your most treasured possession at home? Why is it so special?

MR: I’m a bit of a collector, so my house is a bit of a living diary filled with where I have been. Many things don’t have much real value, but they have personal value to me. My parents bought me a piano for my 40th birthday when my mum was still alive and it’s one of my most treasured possessions. I’ve also got a few teddy bears that I’ve been given over my life, which are special to me. One makes me laugh when I look at him.

martin roberts' piano

Martin’s piano

Martin Roberts

What would your perfect night at home look like?

MR: A hot bath with candles and a glass of wine. Then, I’d slip into my pyjamas and have some really basic hearty food, like a freshly made pizza or steak and chips. I’d eat it on the sofa whilst watching a James Bond movie and cuddling the kids and dog.

martin roberts portrait

Martin Roberts

Martin Roberts

What does your outdoor space mean to you?

MR: I don’t have a huge garden, but I do have a bit of garden so I’m very much at home in nature. While it’s great to have an outdoor space, it’s more important to have great access to open woodland where I can really get into nature — that matters a lot to me. Definitely during lockdown, having a garden with a fishpond, some nice trees, grass, hot tub, and a trampoline for the kids, you certainly treasured it. I felt very sorry for people who were locked up in flats, with a balcony if they were lucky.

martin roberts' garden

Martin’s garden

Martin Roberts

Which room do you spend most of your time in? How did you decorate this space?

MR: My office is probably where I spend most of my time, since I work from home. The walls are covered in all sorts of things, including old Fawlty Towers scripts signed by John Cleese, Monty Python scripts and a lot of memorabilia. It’s a real eclectic room, filled with memories. The decoration is bland, but it’s full of stuff. If I go for noisy decoration, it’s a bit of a disaster, since my house is very noisy because of all my rubbish. Well, I call it my memories, my wife calls it rubbish.

martin roberts' office at home

Martin’s office

Martin Roberts

What would top your list for the worst decor trend?

MR: Mustard! I think anything which is overly harsh, jagged and glaring, such as green, mustard, purple or brown. These colours are the worst, along with striped wallpaper and fluorescent lighting. Lighting is something which is often forgotten, and it makes such a difference. Sometimes you’ll go into a pub and think ‘what on earth have you done?’ You’ve put in the most obnoxious white light with fluorescent fittings. What were you thinking?

If you could design your dream home, what things would you want to include?

MR: An infinity swimming pool overlooking an estuary or the sea.

Martin Roberts is currently working with Gas Safe Register – the UK’s official registration body for gas engineers and gas businesses to help the nation better understand the risks to our health, wealth and safety when not dealing with niggling issues within our homes.

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[INTERVIEW] Ohouse found an opportunity in cookie-cutter flats

[INTERVIEW] Ohouse found an opportunity in cookie-cutter flats

[INTERVIEW] Ohouse found an opportunity in cookie-cutter flats

Lee Seung-jae, Bucketplace CEO, poses for a photo after an interview at the company office in Gangnam, southern Seoul, on Sept. 29. [PARK SANG-MOON]

 
Some people are spending more time touring the homes of strangers than shopping for fashionwear or beauty products as interior decorating has become a trend.  
 
Ohouse, a social media-based platform for home interiors, ranked No.1 amongst all specialty online malls in Korea in terms of monthly active users.  
 
According to recent data by local app tracker WiseApp, Ohouse had 5.4 million monthly active users as of August. It was followed by popular online fashion malls like ZigZag, Brandy, Musinsa and Olive Young.  
 
Total downloads of Ohouse reached 20 million as of July, which doubled in just over a year since the app downloads hit 10 million in April 2020. With interest increasing in home decoration, helped along by Covid-19, Bucketplace, which runs Ohouse, recently received a 1.1 trillion won ($980 million) valuation.  
 
“Covid-19 triggered people that may have become interested in home decoration,” said Lee Seung-jae, Bucketplace CEO, in an interview with Korea JoongAng Daily at the Bucketplace office in Gangnam, southern Seoul, on Sept. 29.

 
Ohouse, started in 2014, basically offers three types of services: content, commerce and remodeling.  
 
It is a social media-based platform where users can tour home interiors uploaded by other users. It expanded to commerce in 2016, allowing users to directly purchase products that appear in the interior photos. Most recently, it added next-day delivery for furniture and also started a repair service.
 
Bucketplace received a total of 88 billion won in investment from both domestic and overseas investors, including Mirae Asset Venture Investment, Naver and Bond Capital, a venture capital firm based in San Francisco.  
 
Its accumulated sales since 2014 hit 2 trillion won as of June, while a number of employees jumped to 350 this year from only three at the time of founding.  
 
Lee, 34, majored in chemical and biological engineering at Seoul National University. Bucketplace is his second start-up. He previously worked for a start-up that involved solar trash bins.
 
But he ditched engineering for interior.
 
“I believe people’s interest in home decoration will increase in Korea as its gross domestic product rises. Once they experience these changes, it will become difficult for them to go back to the past,” Lee added.
 
Below are the edited excerpts from the interview.  
 

Inside the Bucketplace office in Gangnam, southern Seoul [JEON TAE-GYU]

Inside the Bucketplace office in Gangnam, southern Seoul [JEON TAE-GYU]

 
 
Q. What kinds of services does Ohouse offer?


A. Ohouse is the No. 1 lifestyle platform. It offers everything that is needed in the process of decorating one’s home from getting inspired on how to decorate their home to buying products that inspired them. On top of that, we also connect our users with remodeling firms and recently launched a next-day furniture delivery service in June. Users can choose the time they want to receive the furniture and enjoy free furniture installation. Ohouse also started a home repairing service through the acquisition of Zibda. Changing lightbulbs and switching curtains are some of the available repair services.  
 
 
What inspired you to start Ohouse?


One of the biggest inspirations for me was Ikea’s showrooms. I liked how people could experience various interior designs there. But a bigger inspiration hit me when I visited a well-decorated home of one of my friends. It was such a shock for me when I saw a home that reflected one’s preferences and lifestyle so well. Impacts of the inspiration may be smaller on Ohouse because it is online, but it also allows people to see more diverse styles of home interiors.  
 
 
What do you think is its key competitiveness?


Our core competitiveness is accumulated data and an organic connection with that content and commerce functions.  
 
From the start of the service, Ohouse focused on resolving user problems they may face in the process of decorating a home, which requires making tons of decisions and spending a lot.  
 
So we initially planned to help our users resolve all these problems at once by creating a massive platform that offers solutions for all the challenges people face when decorating a home: figuring out different brands, the appropriate price range and the locations of stores.  
 
But after hearing advice from investors, we realized that it’s impossible to make that work all at once from the beginning of the service. So we decided to resolve different problems people face one by one.
 
At first, we focused on helping people learn their taste by allowing users to make available pictures of how they decorated their homes. We spent years doing that, which became one of our core strengths. We then started commerce, as we had planned, in 2016. We expanded to remodeling in 2019 and to next-day delivery in June.
 
We are continuously trying to gradually resolve challenges our users face.  
 
 
What is a major characteristic of Korea’s interior decoration market?
 
A major characteristic is that there are many apartments in Korea. In many other countries, most homes are detached houses with different sizes and structures. But residences in Korea mostly center on apartments or apartment studios that have a standardized home structure and utilize standardized materials. For instance, most homes in Korea have white walls and wooden floors. This makes it easier for Ohouse users to refer to and imitate home decorations made by many other users, who also live in a similar home structures.  
 
 
How do you think Ohouse changed Korea’s home interior decoration market?


Users often say in reviews that a home used to be a place where they only sleep or store their luggage. But since using Ohouse, a home has come to mean different things for different people. To some, a home became a place of comfort while to others, it became a place where they can get energized.  
 
In the past, people did not pay attention on how to decorate their home and just lived in a standardized house that was constructed because they didn’t know how to decorate their home. But seeing pictures of home interiors on Ohouse inspired many people to believe that they too can restyle their home. We contributed in making more people become interested in restyling their homes because we also helped figure out problems they face in the process of decorating their homes at the same time.
 
I don’t think we created a new market or a new wave of demand. But I believe we played a leading role in pulling forward more people’s interest in home decorations by giving them inspiration by easily making available pictures of other people’s home, a private space that was not shared easily.  
 
 
What is Ohouse’s main focus right now?
 
Technology is and will be the most important factor for our business.  
 
At first, most of our users were newlyweds aged between 25 to 35 that were decorating a new home upon getting married. Now, a more diverse range of people living in different styles of homes are using the platform. So we are trying to offer content, products and services that meet the demand of the diverse user base.  
 
We hired more workers this year for that. We now have 350 employees compared to 200 last year. Those working in technology account for around 30 percent of the total number of our employees.  
 
 
Do you plan on opening offline stores or showrooms for Ohouse?


A lot of people are requesting us to open an offline store. They say they want to see products they buy on Ohouse at an offline store, especially when they plan on buying expensive products. I think we could try opening offline showroom at some point, but we think it is valuable for Ohouse to fix problems that often occur online and improve overall services. Some of the improvements we made were adding a filter feature that allows users to filter products based on their size or designs and expanding product categories to furniture from just offering props.  
 
Ohouse functions as a platform that connects customers with sellers. Does it plan on selling its own private label products?
We believe it would be a valuable attempt to sell exclusive products that are only available on Ohouse. We’re internally reviewing on teaming up with our clients to design, make and sell exclusive products on our platform.
 

Lee Seung-jae, Bucketplace CEO, speaks during an interview with Korea JoongAng Daily at Bucketplace office in Gangnam, southern Seoul, on Sept. 29. [PARK SANG-MOON]

Lee Seung-jae, Bucketplace CEO, speaks during an interview with Korea JoongAng Daily at Bucketplace office in Gangnam, southern Seoul, on Sept. 29. [PARK SANG-MOON]

 
What’s Ohouse’s relationship with small or big interior companies, like Hanssem or Hyundai Livart?


I see them as partners instead of competitors because Ohouse connects customers and their products and services.
 
 
Do you plan on branching out overseas?


I believe there will be an opportunity for us in the global market. But since branching out overseas is a very difficult challenge, we are internally discussing on how to make it work at this point.  
 
 
Is Bucketplace considering an initial public offering (IPO)?
 
We are not ready to set an IPO date. We are focused on growing the company because we think there are still a lot of issues that need to be solved to improve our service.  
 
We are not yet making a [consistent] profit. There was a time when we made profit for a month or a quarter. We plan to make a mid to long-term investment for the company’s growth.  
 
We haven’t yet set a specific goal on by when to achieve annual profit. We plan to focus on growing Ohouse for now.  
 
 
What do you think are main factors behind Ohouse’s rapid growth?  


Ohouse is doing better than I had expected, and I think there are two reasons behind that. The first reason is that people mostly live at a home, and Ohouse is offering solutions to those people that share the commonality. The second reason is that the definition of home decoration has changed. In the past, people associated home decoration with major interior remodeling, a construction project that was done once in many years. But now, people perceive home decoration as changing several items and harmonizing them, like buying new curtains or table cloths in time for a new season. More people are trying to continuously redecorate their homes by making small changes that can be done with small purchases.  
 
 
How do you think interior decoration changes people’s lives?  
 
I think people come to better understand themselves. Decorating a home is a process of getting to know about oneself because they have to find out what style of home they like. They need to spend time exploring about themselves, and some people described the experience as healing.  
 
What is the key factor that is driving Ohouse’s growth?


There isn’t a single most important factor. But the beginning of everything is our obsession for customers. The reason Ohouse began the service and continues to exist today is not just to simply make products and grow the business but to solve problems that exist to make better changes for people that are in need of help. That is an essential purpose of our existence.  
 
I always start work with these questions: “Why am I doing this?” and “Who does this help?”
 
 

BY JIN MIN-JI [jin.minji@joongang.co.kr]